“The point of view is a useful bridging concept between matter and mind” has a sort of interesting buddhist ring to it because, without the point of view, the division between “matter” and “mind”, these concepts which are themselves the result of sticking a bridge (not a goal) over an ambiguous chunk of life (as this entity, life splits just like a rock), would not even be differentiated. So yes, a bridge over a stream that the bridge delineates is pretty solid. “Expedient means!”
I read 'Other Minds' a while back and loved it. I need to get round to Metazoa.
If I remember correctly, he also notes that a minimal degree of this self awareness is found in certain microbes too, where they must be able to separate their own chemical and electrical signals from those they're tracking in the environment.
A point of view is necessary but not sufficient for consciousness. A point of view lets you observe the world, but that doesn't mean that you can model it. For consciousness we not only have to model the world, but model ourselves within that model of the world. Only then do we get the inner 'I' which is our model of ourselves, the physical 'me'.
“The point of view is a useful bridging concept between matter and mind” has a sort of interesting buddhist ring to it because, without the point of view, the division between “matter” and “mind”, these concepts which are themselves the result of sticking a bridge (not a goal) over an ambiguous chunk of life (as this entity, life splits just like a rock), would not even be differentiated. So yes, a bridge over a stream that the bridge delineates is pretty solid. “Expedient means!”
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I read 'Other Minds' a while back and loved it. I need to get round to Metazoa.
If I remember correctly, he also notes that a minimal degree of this self awareness is found in certain microbes too, where they must be able to separate their own chemical and electrical signals from those they're tracking in the environment.
A point of view is necessary but not sufficient for consciousness. A point of view lets you observe the world, but that doesn't mean that you can model it. For consciousness we not only have to model the world, but model ourselves within that model of the world. Only then do we get the inner 'I' which is our model of ourselves, the physical 'me'.